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Про нього тут Тімоті Снайдер написав статтю і про Путіна, і про Україну в Нью-Йорк Рев"ю

 

Кому цікаво можу вислати PDF in English всієї статті Снайдера у приват

 

ось деякі витримки зі статті:

 

'Ivan Ilyin, Puti's Philosopher of Russian Fascism"  

 
The article is long and challenging, especially if one is impatient with philosophical abstractions.  But he makes a good case for how a Christian fascist philosopher, now frequently cited by Putin and other Russian leaders, helps explain what Putin is doing in Russia--and exporting to the USA.  
 
A few quotes:
 
he also made clear that it did not matter what had actually happened or what Russians actually did. That was meaningless history, those were mere facts. The truth about a nation, wrote Ilyin, was “pure and objective” regardless of the evidence, and the Russian truth was invisible and ineffable Godliness. Russia was not a country with individuals and institutions, even should it so appear, but an immortal living creature. “Russia is an organism of nature and the soul,” it was a “living organism,” a “living organic unity,” and so on. Ilyin wrote of “Ukrainians” within quotation marks, since in his view they were a part of the Russian organism. Ilyin was obsessed by the fear that people in the West would not understand this, and saw any mention of Ukraine as an attack on Russia. Because Russia is an organism, it “cannot be divided, only dissected.”
 
Україна - один організм з Росією - "онішебратья"
 
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These postwar recommendations bear an unmistakable resemblance to prewar fascist systems, and are consistent with the metaphysical and ethical legitimations of fascism present in Ilyin’s major works. The “national dictator,” predicted Ilyin, would spring from somewhere beyond history, from some fictional realm. This Leader (Gosudar’) must be “sufficiently manly,” like Mussolini. The note of fragile masculinity is hard to overlook. “Power comes all by itself,” declared Ilyin, “to the strong man.” People would bow before “the living organ of Russia.” The Leader “hardens himself in just and manly service.”

In Ilyin’s scheme, this Leader would be personally and totally responsible for every aspect of political life, as chief executive, chief legislator, chief justice, and commander of the military. His executive power is unlimited. Any “political selection” should take place “on a formally undemocratic basis.” Democratic elections institutionalized the evil notion of individuality. “The principle of democracy,” Ilyin wrote, “was the irresponsible human atom.” Counting votes was to falsely accept “the mechanical and arithmetical understanding of politics.” It followed that “we must reject blind faith in the number of votes and its political significance.” Public voting with signed ballots will allow Russians to surrender their individuality. Elections were a ritual of submission of Russians before their Leader.

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The case for Ilyin’s influence is perhaps easiest to make with respect to Russia’s new orientation toward Ukraine. Ukraine, like the Russian Federation, is a new country, formed from the territory of a Soviet republic in 1991. After Russia, it was the second-most populous republic of the Soviet Union, and it has a long border with Russia to the east and north as well as with European Union members to the west. For the first two decades after the dissolution of the Soviet Union, Russian-Ukrainian relations were defined by both sides according to international law, with Russian lawyers always insistent on very traditional concepts such as sovereignty and territorial integrity. When Putin returned to power in 2012, legalism gave way to colonialism. Since 2012, Russian policy toward Ukraine has been made on the basis of first principles, and those principles have been Ilyin’s. Putin’s Eurasian Union, a plan he announced with the help of Ilyin’s ideas, presupposed that Ukraine would join. Putin justified Russia’s attempt to draw Ukraine towards Eurasia by Ilyin’s “organic model” that made of Russia and Ukraine “one people.”

Ilyin’s idea of a Russian organism including Ukraine clashed with the more prosaic Ukrainian notion of reforming the Ukrainian state. In Ukraine in 2013, the European Union was a subject of domestic political debate, and was generally popular. An association agreement between Ukraine and the European Union was seen as a way to address the major local problem, the weakness of the rule of law. Through threats and promises, Putin was able in November 2013 to induce the Ukrainian president, Viktor Yanukovych, not to sign the association agreement, which had already been negotiated. This brought young Ukrainians to the street to demonstrate in favor the agreement. When the Ukrainian government (urged on and assisted by Russia) used violence, hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian citizens assembled in Kyiv’s Independence Square. Their main postulate, as surveys showed at the time, was the rule of law. After a sniper massacre that left more than one hundred Ukrainians dead, Yanukovych fled to Russia. His main adviser, Paul Manafort, was next seen working as Donald Trump’s campaign manager.

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А тут пише - в чому Трамп і Путін схожі - та сама імперскість,  і культ мачо - газети брехливі, ФБР позвільняти всіх - ті самі тоталітарні замашки

Anyone following Russian politics could see in early 2016 that the Russian elite preferred Donald Trump to become the Republican nominee for president and then to defeat Hillary Clinton in the general election. In the spring of that year, Russian military intelligence was boasting of an effort to help Trump win. In the Russian assault on American democracy that followed, the main weapon was falsehood. Donald Trump is another masculinity-challenged kleptocrat from the realm of fiction, in his case that of reality television. His campaign was helped by the elaborate untruths that Russia distributed about his opponent. In office, Trump imitates Putin in his pursuit of political post-truth: first filling the public sphere with lies, then blaming the institutions whose purpose is to seek facts, and finally rejoicing in the resulting confusion. Russian assistance to Trump weakened American trust in the institutions that Russia has been unable to build. Such trust was already in decline, thanks to America’s own media culture and growing inequality.

Ilyin meant to be the prophet of our age, the post-Soviet age, and perhaps he is. His disbelief in this world allows politics to take place in a fictional one. He made of lawlessness a virtue so pure as to be invisible, and so absolute as to demand the destruction of the West. He shows us how fragile masculinity generates enemies, how perverted Christianity rejects Jesus, how economic inequality imitates innocence, and how fascist ideas flow into the postmodern. This is no longer just Russian philosophy. It is now American life.

 

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єдінаянєделімая

 

 

а брити ще зі мною сперечаються стосовно Лєніна-сіфілітіка. Який він марксист, якщо у нього комуністичний терор, військовий комунізм і імперське єдіноє неделімоє?

Мабуть у Ільїна набрався теж 

 

 

https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ільїн_Іван_Олександровичтут про нього у вікіпедіі 

 

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Україна[ред. • ред. код] « рос. Украина признается наиболее угрожаемою частью России в смысле отделения и завоевания. Украинский сепаратизм есть явление искусственное, лишенное реальных оснований. Он возник из честолюбия вожаков и международной завоевательной интриги.

Отделившись, это государство предает само себя на завоевание и разграбление иностранцам. Малороссия и Великороссия связаны воедино верой, племенем, исторической судьбой, географическим положением, хозяйством, культурой и политикой. Иностранцы, подготовляющие расчленение, должны помнить, что они объявляют этим всей России вековую борьбу. Не будет мира и хозяйственного расцвета на востоке при таком расчленении. Россия превратится в источник гражданских и международных войн на века. Расчленяющая держава станет ненавистнейшим из врагов национальной России. В борьбе с нею будут пущены в ход все союзы и всякие средства... Национальная Россия не ищет ничьей погибели, но она сумеет ответить своевременно на всякую попытку расчленения и будет бороться до конца. Всякой державе выгодней иметь Россию другом, а не врагом. История еще не сказала своего последнего слова[6]

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Україна[ред. • ред. код] « рос. Украина признается наиболее угрожаемою частью России в смысле отделения и завоевания. Украинский сепаратизм есть явление искусственное, лишенное реальных оснований. Он возник из честолюбия вожаков и международной завоевательной интриги.

Отделившись, это государство предает само себя на завоевание и разграбление иностранцам. Малороссия и Великороссия связаны воедино верой, племенем, исторической судьбой, географическим положением, хозяйством, культурой и политикой. Иностранцы, подготовляющие расчленение, должны помнить, что они объявляют этим всей России вековую борьбу. Не будет мира и хозяйственного расцвета на востоке при таком расчленении. Россия превратится в источник гражданских и международных войн на века. Расчленяющая держава станет ненавистнейшим из врагов национальной России. В борьбе с нею будут пущены в ход все союзы и всякие средства... Национальная Россия не ищет ничьей погибели, но она сумеет ответить своевременно на всякую попытку расчленения и будет бороться до конца. Всякой державе выгодней иметь Россию другом, а не врагом. История еще не сказала своего последнего слова[6]

 

 

полный вывих моска.

новая история показывет только одно: единственным завоевателем,

предателем и грабителем есть только они, им-перцы.

и не нужно выдумывать никаких "иностранцев": их иностранцы - ето

исключительно тараканы в их головах.

 

Дил, каг ты осиливаеш ето четать? мну жаль своего времени на

оборотней тратить.  :fp1:

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ну взагалі то добре, шо почали писати про підвалини маразму свинособак англійською мовою

 

чому тільки ми маємо це гівно жерти самі 

 

досить вже

 

бесспорно.

но мне кажеццо, ето не такая уж новость для них.

и не смотря ни на што дипконсьорняд и фсьо.

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