Тепер я повірив в Теслу

[dmp]

Снизится потребление бензина и дт - снизится потребление нефти, а значит и цена, а значит доходы у кацапии от нефти упадут в квадрате. Я не понял, мы на каком форуме? Бегом за электромобилями!

[Olegik]

 

 

Выхлопная труба просто переместится в другое место.

 

производство электроэнергии процесс более гибкий. Может статься, что выхлопной трубе переместится будет некуда

[Kumpel]

производство электроэнергии процесс более гибкий. Может статься, что выхлопной трубе переместится будет некуда

[coolzak]

Musk’s genius is primarily in the subsidy-seeking realm. By 2015, U.S. governments alone had given his companies US$5 billion through direct grants, tax breaks, cut-rate loans, tax credits and rebates



The fastest-growing industries over the last two decades have been fake industries, those that thrive despite having few customers willing to buy their products except at fire-sale prices. The fake industries all have the same angel investors — governments — and the same promoter touting their wares — again governments. These fake industries, the brainchild of subsidy entrepreneurs, also tend to be dazzlers, the better to wow their politician backers and the stock market speculators betting on cash flows of government subsidies.

Today’s fake-industry leader is Tesla, the electric car developed by subsidy entrepreneur Elon Musk, who also heads SolarCity and SpaceX, other government darlings. Musk’s genius is primarily in the subsidy-seeking realm — by 2015, U.S. governments alone had given his companies US$5 billion through direct grants, tax breaks, cut-rate loans, cashable environmental credits, tax credits and rebates to buyers of his products. Counting subsidies from Canada and Europe, the government bankroll could be double that. Counting indirect subsidies — such as electric-vehicle-friendly infrastructure — the subsidies soar ever higher.

Speculators who bet on Musk’s ability to continue to get government backing have been well rewarded — Tesla’s stock value has skyrocketed, so much so that its market valuation topped that of BMW this year. Tesla stock is now valued at US$801,000 per car sold in 2016, compared to $26,000 per BMW sold and $5,000 per GM car sold.

Todayu 2019s fake industry leader is Tesla

That inflated stock value rests entirely on government subsidies, as seen by what happened last year when Denmark decided to reduce its subsidies. In 2015, Tesla sold 2,738 cars in Denmark; in 2016, after the government said it would be phasing out subsidies, Tesla sold 176 cars, a drop of 94 per cent. Tesla’s car crash was even more pronounced in Hong Kong. After the government there cut its tax break on April 1, Tesla sales plunged from 2,939 in March to zero in April and five in May

The Tesla, in effect, is a beautifully engineered toy for the conspicuous-consumption market, accessible to millionaires but beyond the reach of the commercial market. Neither it nor most other electric vehicles have any place in a competitive, free-market environment. As an indication of how economically injurious these playthings are to society on the whole, the U.K.’s National Grid estimated that Britain would need to increase its peak generating capacity by 50 per cent to meet the government’s plans for electric vehicles, the equivalent of building 10 new nuclear plants.


The driver of the electric-vehicle industry — government fixation on global warming — has spurred even larger fake industries, led by wind turbines and solar photovoltaic cells. Neither they nor the many other anti-carbon inventions such as carbon sequestration plants are in any business sense “real.” The global renewable-energy industry, having squandered trillions of dollars building economically unjustifiable infrastructure, represents the greatest loss of wealth in the history of commerce.

The Tesla, in effect, is a beautifully engineered toy for the conspicuous consumption market

Fake industries have always been with us, but today’s scale is greater by at least an order of magnitude. The previous record holder for wasteful enterprise was the nuclear power industry, which even today, more than a half-century after its launch, still is not viable. Just last month, two heavily subsidized reactors nearly half-built in South Carolina were abandoned after US$9 billion had been spent on their construction, on the realization they would never be able to produce power competitively. Ontario is still paying for the demise of its nuclear industry a quarter-century ago, which bankrupted Ontario Hydro and cost the province its Triple A credit rating.

Fake industries prey on government’s weakness, like Charlie Brown with that football, to never let constant failure stop it from trying to pick winners. An Elon Musk predecessor, Malcolm Bricklin, in the 1970s convinced New Brunswick’s premier to back a sports car with gull-winged doors for export to the U.S. It went bankrupt after producing 2,900 cars. In the 1980s, Philip Sprung, a Calgary subsidy entrepreneur, convinced Newfoundland’s premier to grow cucumbers in a greenhouse for export to the U.S. Two years and $22 million later, it too went bankrupt. In the 1990s, Ballard Power Systems convinced governments to back hydrogen fuel-cell technology. Its stock, which topped US$120 per share in the year 2000 amid hype that it would revolutionize transportation, is now under $3.

Subsidy entrepreneurs like the Musks of the world — often self-deluded true believers — should be distinguished from the Bernie Madoffs, who are fakes within real industries, and who prey primarily and illegally on private investors. The Musks are fakes in fake industries who prey primarily on taxpayers, a time-honoured practice that remains legal.

[Abamenkov]

Где доля атомной энергетики? В США есть.

[Abamenkov]

Musk’s genius is primarily in the subsidy-seeking realm. By 2015, U.S. governments alone had given his companies US$5 billion through direct grants, tax breaks, cut-rate loans, tax credits and rebates

 

 

 

The fastest-growing industries over the last two decades have been fake industries, those that thrive despite having few customers willing to buy their products except at fire-sale prices. The fake industries all have the same angel investors — governments — and the same promoter touting their wares — again governments. These fake industries, the brainchild of subsidy entrepreneurs, also tend to be dazzlers, the better to wow their politician backers and the stock market speculators betting on cash flows of government subsidies.

 

Today’s fake-industry leader is Tesla, the electric car developed by subsidy entrepreneur Elon Musk, who also heads SolarCity and SpaceX, other government darlings. Musk’s genius is primarily in the subsidy-seeking realm — by 2015, U.S. governments alone had given his companies US$5 billion through direct grants, tax breaks, cut-rate loans, cashable environmental credits, tax credits and rebates to buyers of his products. Counting subsidies from Canada and Europe, the government bankroll could be double that. Counting indirect subsidies — such as electric-vehicle-friendly infrastructure — the subsidies soar ever higher.

 

Speculators who bet on Musk’s ability to continue to get government backing have been well rewarded — Tesla’s stock value has skyrocketed, so much so that its market valuation topped that of BMW this year. Tesla stock is now valued at US$801,000 per car sold in 2016, compared to $26,000 per BMW sold and $5,000 per GM car sold.

 

Todayu 2019s fake industry leader is Tesla

 

That inflated stock value rests entirely on government subsidies, as seen by what happened last year when Denmark decided to reduce its subsidies. In 2015, Tesla sold 2,738 cars in Denmark; in 2016, after the government said it would be phasing out subsidies, Tesla sold 176 cars, a drop of 94 per cent. Tesla’s car crash was even more pronounced in Hong Kong. After the government there cut its tax break on April 1, Tesla sales plunged from 2,939 in March to zero in April and five in May

 

The Tesla, in effect, is a beautifully engineered toy for the conspicuous-consumption market, accessible to millionaires but beyond the reach of the commercial market. Neither it nor most other electric vehicles have any place in a competitive, free-market environment. As an indication of how economically injurious these playthings are to society on the whole, the U.K.’s National Grid estimated that Britain would need to increase its peak generating capacity by 50 per cent to meet the government’s plans for electric vehicles, the equivalent of building 10 new nuclear plants.

 

 

The driver of the electric-vehicle industry — government fixation on global warming — has spurred even larger fake industries, led by wind turbines and solar photovoltaic cells. Neither they nor the many other anti-carbon inventions such as carbon sequestration plants are in any business sense “real.” The global renewable-energy industry, having squandered trillions of dollars building economically unjustifiable infrastructure, represents the greatest loss of wealth in the history of commerce.

 

The Tesla, in effect, is a beautifully engineered toy for the conspicuous consumption market

 

Fake industries have always been with us, but today’s scale is greater by at least an order of magnitude. The previous record holder for wasteful enterprise was the nuclear power industry, which even today, more than a half-century after its launch, still is not viable. Just last month, two heavily subsidized reactors nearly half-built in South Carolina were abandoned after US$9 billion had been spent on their construction, on the realization they would never be able to produce power competitively. Ontario is still paying for the demise of its nuclear industry a quarter-century ago, which bankrupted Ontario Hydro and cost the province its Triple A credit rating.

 

Fake industries prey on government’s weakness, like Charlie Brown with that football, to never let constant failure stop it from trying to pick winners. An Elon Musk predecessor, Malcolm Bricklin, in the 1970s convinced New Brunswick’s premier to back a sports car with gull-winged doors for export to the U.S. It went bankrupt after producing 2,900 cars. In the 1980s, Philip Sprung, a Calgary subsidy entrepreneur, convinced Newfoundland’s premier to grow cucumbers in a greenhouse for export to the U.S. Two years and $22 million later, it too went bankrupt. In the 1990s, Ballard Power Systems convinced governments to back hydrogen fuel-cell technology. Its stock, which topped US$120 per share in the year 2000 amid hype that it would revolutionize transportation, is now under $3.

 

Subsidy entrepreneurs like the Musks of the world — often self-deluded true believers — should be distinguished from the Bernie Madoffs, who are fakes within real industries, and who prey primarily and illegally on private investors. The Musks are fakes in fake industries who prey primarily on taxpayers, a time-honoured practice that remains legal.

Что такое 5 мдрд. для США? Копейки. Развивать и исследовать альтернативы нефти и газу нужно все равно. А частные компании это делают все равно лучше чем государство. Почему бы тогда их не простимулировать? Так что тут Обама молодец, что прокредитовал.

[Jinx]

 

 

Где доля атомной энергетики? В США есть.

Kernenergie

[Kumpel]

Где доля атомной энергетики? В США есть.

 

пока есть, до 20-го года...

[Юрий с ФУП]

Положительный момент это выпуск теслой для бытовых целей мощных аккумуляторов которые заряжают ночью а днем те выдают дешевые киловатт.В США за ними очередь.

[лєса]

а почему нихто не обсуждает теслоскандаль?

 

попробую своиме словаме пересказать, што помню:

 

во время урагана тесла бесплатно обновила программное обеспечение более дорогих

моделей машын, фактически кликом позволив машынам использовать батарею

на всю мощь, што добавило юзерам возможность улепётывать от урагана

дополнительных миль триццать.

ибо по умолчянию батарея используеццо не на полную мощьность.

 

в более же дешевых авто ето сделано не было. там за такое обновление нужно

было платить несколько тыщь. в то же время характеристики батарей и в более

дорогих, и в более дешевых автивках одинаковые.

 

вот так тесла дала шансы выжыть более богатым и сконать более бедным.

[Olegik]

а почему нихто не обсуждает теслоскандаль?

 

попробую своиме словаме пересказать, што помню:

 

во время урагана тесла бесплатно обновила программное обеспечение более дорогих

моделей машын, фактически кликом позволив машынам использовать батарею

на всю мощь, што добавило юзерам возможность улепётывать от урагана

дополнительных миль триццать.

ибо по умолчянию батарея используеццо не на полную мощьность.

 

в более же дешевых авто ето сделано не было. там за такое обновление нужно

было платить несколько тыщь. в то же время характеристики батарей и в более

дорогих, и в более дешевых автивках одинаковые.

 

вот так тесла дала шансы выжыть более богатым и сконать более бедным.

 

Как известно, в прошлом году Tesla выпустила новые, более доступные варианты электромобилей Model X 60D и Model S 60/60D, которые вскоре были сняты с производства. Эти модели оснащались аккумуляторами на 75 кВт∙ч, но в данном случае их емкость была ограничена программным путем до 60 кВт∙ч. Ограничение можно было снять за отдельную плату. Так вот, на этой неделе Tesla выпустила обновление прошивки во Флориде, которым временно сняла это ограничение, тем самым включив полную емкость и увеличив пробег без подзарядки примерно на 65 км.

 

С ограничением запас хода автомобилей варьируется в пределах 200-230 миль (320-370 километров) на одной зарядке.

 

На это действие производитель пошел после обращения одного из владельцев таких автомобилей Tesla, живущий во Флориде, где была объявлена эвакуация из-за урагана «Ирма». Как сообщается, он обратился в компанию с просьбой снять ограничение, отметив, что дополнительный запас хода поможет ему добраться в безопасное место. Tesla просьбу выполнила и выпустила соответствующее обновление ПО для всех электромобилей на территории штата.

 

Конечно, в данном случае можно обойтись и без разблокировки, положившись на фирменные станции быстрой зарядки Supercharger, которые, как сообщается, работали в привычном режиме, но, как верно заметил ресурс Engadget, «это явно не то, чем стоит заниматься, убегая от смертоносного шторма».

 

Как сообщается, разблокировка эта – временная, после 16 сентября емкость аккумуляторов базовых моделей снова ограничат. Опять-таки программным путем посредством соответствующего обновления прошивки.

http://itc.ua/blogs/tesla-obnovleniem-proshivki-uvelichila-dalnost-hoda-chasti-elektromobiley-vo-floride-chtobyi-voditelyam-byilo-legche-izbezhat-vstrechi-s-irmoy/

[лєса]

ну, была инфа именно такая, как леса песала - обновили только более дорогие модели.

[Reader]

ну, была инфа именно такая, как леса песала - обновили только более дорогие модели.

точно не с кацапского ресурса читада?

[лєса]

точьно! с нескольких четала - усе нашы. 

[лєса]

примечятельно, што щас ничо не могу нагугелеть - почистили? 

[DA']

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGH2Na1sSPk

Змінено 22 вересня, 2017 користувачем DA'

[Vyacheslav]

Тепер я повірив у Порше

[лєса]

[vkhavr2]

Глибокий розряд батарей дуже шкідливий для них. Тому програма і не дає їм розряджатися.